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Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:09:07 -
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Not happy with complete nerf of Fighters / Bombers...
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Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:26:13 -
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St'oto wrote:Jake Reece wrote:Not happy with complete nerf of Fighters / Bombers...
Boo hoo. SO now you can't use skynet and kill anything that moves from the safety of your POS shields. This Skynetting was a plague to this game and finally CCP removed it. And since skynetting was removed, fighers didn't really need to warp off grid now did they? The only people who complain about this issue are the ones who abused the hell out of it for easy killmails. The LARGE majority of EVE HATED it which is why CCP finally stepped up and removed it.
Im not saying that game is perfect and some things should not be changed, but I am against removing valueable features from expensive and taking long time to skill ships w/o giving ANYTHING in return... Fix the feature, change it, adjust it but not just remove it! |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:36:24 -
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CCP Turtlepower wrote:Siliouba wrote:Reading from patch notes:
Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.
It seems "Assist and Defend" doesn't appears in game for fighters ....
Is this a bug or devs decision?
You are looking at an old version of the patch notes, we have also removed the Assist and Defend options. Capital ships will be re-balanced later this year, we will make them awesome again!
So we should refer from using them as there are usless ATM :/ or some of them is... with major functin simply removed. I would not say it is a thoughtfull decision. |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:58:55 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Anyone else getting random missing images since this patch? Some of the UI buttons and ships in the target section just seem to be blank.
Nope - have not notice that on both of my accounts.... may be on your side m8t |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:24:51 -
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Crash Bendar wrote:I had heard that we were to be given the option to have a full install. I already had the client installed and was not given a choice on the update.
Since you've had whole game client on your machine already there was no need for that. That is why you had first step of patch, where luncher moved relevant game files to the cache area to be used in future rather than being downloaded on demand.
I just check the luncher - I can not find option to up out from DownloadOnDemand as I would rather have all relevant data at once not being fetched while I play as my network speed could have been way better |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.25 18:10:23 -
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Sigras wrote:Bill Lane wrote:CCP Turtlepower wrote:Siliouba wrote:Reading from patch notes:
Fighters can no longer be assigned to other pilots. The GÇÿDelegate ControlGÇÖ option has been removed and replaced by GÇÿAssistGÇÖ and GÇÿDefendGÇÖ, same as other drones.
It seems "Assist and Defend" doesn't appears in game for fighters ....
Is this a bug or devs decision? You are looking at an old version of the patch notes, we have also removed the Assist and Defend options. Capital ships will be re-balanced later this year, we will make them awesome again! So CCP, doesn't this seem a little backward to you? We know it's gonna make things suck, but since it will get fixed in the future we're just gonna let it suck.... I mean really it would be like saying "We don't like the bonuses X ship gives, so we're just going to remove all bonuses and let the ship suck until we rebalance the ship sometime in the future, and it will be a good ship again." Seems like a pretty bad idea to do business that way. And I'm not even in nullsec to use my carrier for a while, still think a different solution should be worked out. Other than that, the patch sounds great. About to get on and check it out. Consider the alternative... "we know ship x is totally overpowered and breaking the game, but we're just going to leave it, and let it keep crushing stuff until we get around to fixing it" given those two options ill take the first... even if I have multiple cap ships...
Overpowered, maybe - but that reality... supercarrier with Air group support can and should be able to generate lots of damage and destruction upon enemy fleet. But it costs a lot as well.... something for something.
You don't invest and build that big asset to be useless one the field.
I have used delegate fightes to provide support in my WH to the rest of the corp... never used it on a frigate or noob ship just to generate damage on enemy or in PVP. Current changes rendered this tactics useless... But the most bugging issue is reply from one of devs - that they 'will balance caps later this year'. Dont destroy game with half measures! |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.25 19:15:10 -
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Sorry but I fail to see this being related to the subject.... is there a moderator here who can clean this place up? We are writting here about relevant for the game issues. There is no need for posts like above. |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:53:59 -
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Sigras wrote:Bill Lane wrote:Sigras wrote:Consider the alternative...
"we know ship x is totally overpowered and breaking the game, but we're just going to leave it, and let it keep crushing stuff until we get around to fixing it"
given those two options ill take the first... even if I have multiple cap ships... I understand it's broken, and I agree that skynet can be a big problem. I just think removing the problem area completely without an actual fix to replace it is bad form. Both options are unacceptable as it's either too much or too little, like having 0 or 2 with the goal of 1, but not giving us a .5 or 1.5 to work with in the meantime. I think the on-grid assist/guard would have been a good option until they actually do the rebalance. I do appreciate your point, and we both want a move in the right direction. CCP was moving in the right direction, but then went clear to the opposite end of the spectrum. Wouldnt fighter assist have been exactly the same thing? A super carrier @ 100 km aligned to warp out with all of its fighters assisting other interceptors in the area? Sure the supercap is on grid, but it's basically just as safe as in a POS. I guess the only difference is one can be cloaky camped :P
And what would you expect 20+ Billion asset right in the middle of the battlefield... have you seen any Fleet / Navy doing that, especially in real life?
Cariier and Supercarrier can be fitted as tank in the middle of the field but what's the point - thats the fuction of the Dreadnought |
Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.26 08:27:06 -
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Svarii wrote:Rroff wrote:Svarii wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Svarii wrote:What's the proper response, oh yeah. TEARS! So many tears in this thread. LOL! HTFU! Don't be a jerk. They have a legitimate concern. Maybe they do. But it's not going to change anytime soon. Solution: Just use your fighters to apply DPS to a target instead of assigning them to another ship. People are acting like the fighters are useless now. The only thing that will be changing is how the ship is used by the players. With the long lock time of non-triage carriers combined with the now nerfed scan res of fighters there is no reason to actually use them in a combat fit any more over the alternatives which also has an impact on fighter use in PVE. I hope for consistency sake they now apply this to other areas of eve where things are in some cases problematic i.e. sentry drones should be nerfed to 1km optimal, 1km falloff. Missions/Sites? Structure bashing? If you really believe the carrier is useless now. Don't use it. I'll be getting mine soon either way. Guess I'm glad I didn't already have one. Don't agree with Skynet, but don't care they took away the other options as well. Good luck with your efforts to change it back. You're going to need it. o7
Either of those activities both in Null and WH-Space can be interrupted by gang of uninvited guests... and with current fighters condition, and sensor strenght it will take a LONG time to help your fleet in fighting due to target locking delay.... If you could assist - then you would not be delayed...
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Jake Reece
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Posted - 2015.03.26 08:37:19 -
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Fredlah wrote:So let me get this straight guys. We could assign fighters to a ship, and that ship could have a MAX of 5 (or more for carrier) fighters assigned to it, and ccp didn't like it, so they removed it.
But with assist/guard ships would be able to have FIFTY fighters. PER SHIP. If you don't think that would have been broken then you're really wouldn't have enjoyed fights when an interceptor that could control 5 fighters is now controlling 50.
Take your head out of your asses and actually think for a moment, yeah?
If you are a carrier or supercarrier and you want to shoot something, you get on grid with it, drop fighters, and shoot it. They are still going to be at increased risk. Just be happy there is no insta-locking interceptor controlling them and carriers take a while to lock stuff, christ
you had a broken mechanic, and now you are having a tantrum because you didn't get an even more broken mechanic?
You are wrong m8t...
Assist means that your fighters would attack the taget of the ship you are assisting... So lets say your friend in BS has targeted someone - you could now send your fighters to assist that BS in attack on that target... and yes as it works with drones - you can send all of the fighters to assist, but you and only you will have full controll over them - so that BS would not be able to turn them back to orbit or send anywhere else.... as they would be fully controlled by carrier.
And yes - it means that it could be 15 fighters shootiang at the target of fleet member. |
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